
The Mostly Legal Podcast
Join Rob Joyner and Amanda Koplos as they chat with the heroes of high-performing law firms today. From the business of law to the most fun parts of it, Rob and Amanda leave no stone unturned.

Season 6, Episode 5
No Clubs Required: EJ Stern on How the Best Rainmakers Break the Mold
In this episode, we sit down with EJ Stern, co founder of Fractional Law Firm CMO, who helps small and mid sized firms punch far above their weight.

Season 6, Episode 4
More Degrees Than a Thermometer: Dawn Anderson on the People Who Run Law Firms
In this episode , we sit down with Dawn Anderson, CHRO at Butler Snow, to talk about the people side of running a law firm.

Season 6, Episode 3
Don't Drown, Don't Wreck, Don't Puke: Kathy Scourby on Real Resilience
In this episode, we sit down with Kathy Scourby to talk about why operational resilience is necessary for law firms.

Season 6, Episode 2
Get Lawyers Out of Billing: The Back Office Revolution Your Firm Needs
Join Cecy Graf to talk about why the back office is the most misunderstood — and underinvested — part of your firm.

Season 6, Episode 1
The Paper Check Is Dead: Why Your Law Firm's Profitability Depends on Automation
In this episode, Laurence Winters makes the case that the paper check is dead, the monthly report packet is on life support, and your firm's profitability now depends on how aggressively you automate the back office.

Season 5, Episode 6
Fun Is Not Illegal: Why Building Law Firm Culture Is a Winning Strategy
Hear Jessica VanTroost's take on how intentional culture-building drives engagement and inclusion across 18 law firm offices.

Season 5, Episode 5
Taming Digital Chaos: The Path to a More Focused Law Practice
The Mostly Legal Podcast: Hear from Paul Unger on how lawyers can reclaim focus, improve productivity, and bring calm back to their workdays.

Season 5, Episode 4
Reimagining Law Firm Leadership: A CFO's Blueprint for Resilience, Empathy & Reinvention
William Washington III joins The Mostly Legal Podcast, sharing candid, motivating, practical insights for anyone navigating a legal career.

Season 5, Episode 3
From Tech Support to AI Trailblazer: Lessons on AI Adoption in Law Firms
Melissa Ballesteros shares real-world challenges law firms face when adopting AI, from training and change management to leadership buy-in.

Season 5, Episode 2
Building Trust, Not Hype: A Lawyer’s Playbook for LinkedIn and AI
Jessica Aries joins us to talk all about helping lawyers get comfortable using LinkedIn as a business development tool, and how AI can help.

Season 5, Episode 1
How a Coach's Mindset Drives Law Firm Culture, Retention and Client Experience
In this episode of The Mostly Legal Podcast, Tirek Gayle shares how a coach’s mindset powers law firm leadership and his plans for ALA NYC.

Season 4, Episode 6
Not a Lawyer and That's the Point: The Case for Redefining the Law Firm
John Bowers, CEO of Thompson Burton, shares how leadership, transparency, and empathy are reshaping the future of law firm operations.

Season 4, Episode 5
From K-1s to KPIs: A CPA's Guide to Law Firm Finances
Terrell Turner, CPA and founder of TL Turner Group, breaks down law firm finance, from K-1s to phantom income to key metrics you should track.

Season 4, Episode 4
Running Toward Change: What It Takes to Lead in Today’s Law Firms
ALA President Travis Armstrong discusses his presidential theme, 20-year journey in ALA, and how leadership starts with getting uncomfortable

Season 4, Episode 3
Avoiding Random Acts of Law Firm Marketing
Legal marketing pro John Byrne shares smart, realistic strategies that any small or mid-size law firm can use to grow.

Season 4, Episode 2
Is Your Law Firm Ready for a COO?
Guest Debbie Foster, dives deep on what law firms think they need vs. what they actually need when they say they're hiring a COO.

Season 4, Episode 1
From the Front Desk to COO and Finding Passion Along the Way
In this engaging episode, Elyssa Goldstein describes her career path from the front desk to COO and how she found her passion for legal management.

Season 3, Episode 11
The Mostly Legal Podcast: Season 3, Episode 11 "The Butterfly Effect: Building Your Brand Through the Power of Social Media"
This week’s guest on the Mostly Legal Podcast is proof that you really can have it all! Suzy Klepac (Office Administrator, Kirk & Chaney PLLC) has served in multiple administrative roles at various law firms for the last six years, but she recently embarked on her greatest challenge – working remotely full time with a newborn. Working parents everywhere will be inspired to hear Suzy’s story of work-life balance in the fast-paced legal industry, which, according to her, is a little like living life like someone left the gate open. Don’t let the goats out!

Season 3, Episode 10
The Mostly Legal Podcast: Season 3, Episode 10 "Parenting While Practicing: Achieving the Elusive Work/Life Harmony"
What if we shifted the way we thought of work-life balance to work-life integration or enrichment? We welcomed Lori Mihalich-Levin, an author, mother, podcast host, and founding principal, to the podcast to discuss the role of motherhood and its integration into the practice of law. She really can do it […]

Season 3, Episode 9
The Mostly Legal Podcast: Season 3, Episode 9 "The Impact of Encouragement: Finding and Embracing Your Authentic Self"
On this week of the Mostly Legal podcast, Rob and Amanda host Geoffrey Williams (COO and CFO of Cunningham Bounds, LLC) and ALA International President-Elect 2022-2023. Have you ever thought about the differences between curiosity vs. judgment between one another? Geoffrey provides a thoughtful conversation around the impact of their […]

Season 3, Episode 8
The Mostly Legal Podcast: Season 3, Episode 8 "More than Just Networking: How the ALA Cultivates Special Friendships"
Did you ever think the ALA could bring you some of your best friends? This week, we welcome Jessica Daughtery, the Director of Administration at Wesierski & Zurek. Jessica opens up to Rob and Amanda about how the ALA is not just a place to swap business cards, but rather […]

Season 3, Episode 7
The Mostly Legal Podcast: Season 3, Episode 7 "The Dynamic Duo: The Power of Storytelling"
Do we have a (Halloween) treat for you this week? On this episode, we welcomed the charismatic father and son duo, Alan and Rich Wilson as they dive into the power of storytelling. Now, this episode does not fall short of in-person storytelling too. From everything from Halloween stories to […]

Season 3, Episode 6
The Mostly Legal Podcast: Season 3, Episode 6 "Are Lawyers Bad at Business?"
Has anyone ever bet on your failure? When Bill Lowman started ShuffieldLowman 19 years ago, partners at his former firm predicted he wouldn’t succeed. He was a young partner with a still-growing book of business who was notoriously bad at entering and billing time. But thanks to strong mentors, the […]

Season 3, Episode 5
The Mostly Legal Podcast: Season 3, Episode 5 "Paving the Path Forward: Leading with Passion and Generosity"
This week, you are in for a real treat. We hosted Sarah Evenson, ALA President. Sarah is no stranger to the legal industry. As a previous law school student by day and MBA student by night, Sarah fills us in our her exciting career path and what led her to […]

Season 3, Episode 4
The Mostly Legal Podcast: Season 3, Episode 4 "Grace, Gratitude, and Grit: Getting to Yes."
This week’s guest on the Mostly Legal Podcast is proof that you really can have it all! Suzy Klepac (Office Administrator, Kirk & Chaney PLLC) has served in multiple administrative roles at various law firms for the last six years, but she recently embarked on her greatest challenge – working remotely full time with a newborn. Working parents everywhere will be inspired to hear Suzy’s story of work-life balance in the fast-paced legal industry, which, according to her, is a little like living life like someone left the gate open. Don’t let the goats out!